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 Post subject: 2014 Club Racing
PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:03 pm 
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For 2014 SCCA will offer two types of racing:

For National Licensed Club Racers: Two Majors races in each Division, with an occasional Majors Festival race to attract specific classes (but not all classes) of the National Race Licensed drivers.

For Regional Licensed Drivers: Divisional Races, operating under division rules. These rules vary by Division, our current MIDIV rules can be found at thie following link (updated this week):

Mid Am Championship Racing:

http://www.midiv.org/PDF/2014-WEB-Mid-Am%20Regs.pdf

Racer Dan

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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Club Racing
PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:50 pm 
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Do we know how much say SCCA national has on dates of the races (mainly between physically close regions)? This seems like the biggest issue this year with multiple races within reasonable driving distance. Seems like there hasn't been enough oversight or communication on the proximity of races scheduled on the same weekends. The race over at Autobahn really limited any eastern racers from coming to our event at the Iowa Speedway.

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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Club Racing
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:51 pm 
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They can try, but we obviously have more pull in our MiDiv scheduling than CenDiv.

Scott Bowman was telling us about the CRX (Club Racing eXperience) race they did. I think it would be a great way to attract new racers.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Club Racing
PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:44 pm 
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The "Club Racing eXperience" Dave mentions was a run group that ran under rules similar to vintage racing. i.e. Contact between cars was highly discouraged. The speeds of the cars involved were capped at the SM/ITA level with an allowance for SRF's. The advantage of the CRX was that drivers were not required to hold a competition license, have a physical, HANS, and their belts did not age out.

There were some safety requirements and education involved, of course. For the most part CRX breaks down the barriers that prevent people from trying club racing. It would also make it easy to take that old race car out of the garage and have fun with it w/o the expense of bringing the car and driver up-to-date.

It's still an evolving program.

Edit: Looks like there's going to be one of these at Watkins Glen.

http://mazdaracers.com/topic/3739-annou ... entry50288


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Club Racing
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:40 pm 
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David brings up a good point. Having an event on top of someone else's doesnt work out very good. It robs from both regions, forcing both of them into a financial loss for their events. This kills club racing.

The scheduling process for holding a club racing event is a extremely complex one. Here is an example of what we have to work with:

1. Figure out what our region would like to hold, a Majors Race, and/ or Divisional (was Regional) race event/s.

2. Apply for Majors event to see if you can be the one of two regions per Division to get approved to hold one.

3. Get with our track (Iowa Speedway) and find out the weekends that are available- usually only a small number of weekends are open for rent due to high demand for the track.

4. Select first second, third choice for weekend event, then attend scheduling meeting with MIDIV regions (13 regions total). Each region has same right to apply for a weekened for club racing, if they have a track to do it on. This is a long drawn out process, discussing what type of races to hold, what dates THEIR track has open, and what weekeend THEIR region wants to hold an event. Usually the best weekeneds are in June, July, August- so everyone jockeys for best weekend that their track has in thius window. Some strong clashes sometimes follow, as it is not good for one region to hold and event, and two weeks later a region next to it holds one. So you really need to separate this my at least 30 days. For us, that is NE Region and St. Louis Region in our Division.

5. After much negotiations, the MIDIV scheduler finalizes the events and dates, the regions go to their tracks and get dates booked.

6. For us, we are right next to Central Division- Minnesota and Chicago to our north and East. We do not participate in their scheduling. So, we get notice a month or two later that they schedule an event the same or close date to us. We can either go thru process to change our date by starting over, or bite the bulltet and have our event or cancel it. For Chicago, they might not be able to hold it on a different date, if their track is booked, or another region in their division has one booked that interferes.

As you can see, this is like a spiders web. If we dont hold an event, it hurts our local racers ability to keep their licenses and our workers keep their credentials (they have to work several events a year). So we try our very best to do what helps our members the most.

My brst advise is stay involved, and voice your opinions and concerns. Our members drive our decisions, and while we are heavily involved in trying to help you all enjoy the hobby, we need your help to keep our focus in the right direction. As you can see from above, we are pulled from all directions, and we "need to know when to hold them, and know when to fold them" as Kenny Rogers used to say...

Hope this enlightens you all some!

Racer Dan

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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Club Racing
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:08 pm 
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MiDiv's Majors Events have been awarded to Hallet and HPT for 2014.

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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Club Racing
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:40 pm 
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There's talk in the latest "SportsCar" about a different licensing scheme for next year too. Just Novice and Competition licenses. Does anyone know how that will work?


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Club Racing
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:22 pm 
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Since there is no more National or Regional racing, there is no need to have these anymore. No info sent to me on what you needtot do to qualify or earn them yet that I have heard of, but should have given it out so we would all know this year if we have enough races in or not to keep our licenses active.

Has anyone else heard anything?

RD

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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Club Racing
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:17 pm 
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Same questions need to be answered for workers. Will there still be regional/divisional/national grade worker licenses? And if so, is there any point in bothering to maintain a national license if your region never gets a Majors? All of these questions about driver and worker licenses were asked at national convention. The only answer was "there's lots of time to work that out." It's almost September now and time is running out.

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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Club Racing
PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:50 am 
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I asked around regarding the licensing issue. The comments in SportsCar were based on a proposal and are not official. October is the earliest the board will vote on the issue. The goal will be simplification of the process.

So there's no news yet other than that things will likely be changing. :|


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Club Racing
PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:24 pm 
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As RE for our Region, I fele it is my responsibility to share your concerns above and therefore I have sent an email to Rick Myers (head of SCCA) on this yesterday. I will share with you all his response to me.

I wont bore you with the exact details, but it involves the issues above.

Thanks,

Racer Dan
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